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Hello Mike,
At last someone one is
talking sense about the whole audiophile nonsense. I would not describe
myself as an audiophile and am very happy with that. I read your site
with some interest. I collect old vinyl and generally need a good
robust deck that can handle records that are not always in the best
condition. I toyed with buying a 1200 for years but I've always had a
soft spot for vintage hi fi. I did briefly play around with a couple of
audiophile/HI fi press kit but always found them to be like an overbred
pedigree dog, look good but are oh so fussy and need a lot of care.
The phenomena you
have exposed is the old 'Emperors new clothes' bandwagon where people
for fear of appearing philistines or stupid regurgitate the same old
nonsense straight out of the promotional material supplied
by the manufacturers. What is the best wine ? answer the one that
tastes really good. What is the best cheese ?. Answer , the one that
tastes really good. What is the best deck ? the one that sounds
really good. Let your ears tell, you not a compromised hack on a
magazine. Most people want a solid , reliable good sounding deck that
isn't two finicky and picky (taking a platter off to change speeds for
gods sake ! I ask you) Whoever puts up with that has never had a few
mates around , a few beers and spinning some old favourites for a few
hours.
On the subject of
listening, the old debate about sound quality Vs CD I think there is an
important point here, as ethereal as this subject is. Human beings do not have
digital processors for ears, we hear in analogue ! Hence the warmth
that people report in listening to vinyl and a sterile harshness to CD
recordings. Perhaps a digital recording is just a little too good for
our ears , if that makes sense. Bass is particular problem I find.
Reggae lovers may know what I mean. - !0
minutes on your web site and the SL-1210 MK2 is on order !
Kind Regards, Darren
(London)
(January 2011)
Hi Darren,
Thank you very much indeed for your email.
Many people have contacted me with report of how pleased they are with
the SL-1200.
Obviously it is not a cheap solution, and as I suggest if one really
has a limited budget then a Project will have to do and will offer
reasonable and basic record reproduction - at least one can hear all
those great old records again! I just hope that potential purchasers
avoid the plasticky USB style turntables. Vinyl record collections
deserve so much better than that!
There are, of course, many variables to be aware of with analogue,
electro-acoustic reproduction; the turntable itself, its placement, the
cartridge and its installation and adjustment, stylus care and, indeed,
record care etc. This can add to the frustration of playing vinyl if
one is not careful - which is why CDs and mp3's are so popular for
their ease of plug and play I suppose.
The Technics SL-1200 eliminates most of these problematic variables;
just choose the cartridge that best suits ones needs.
However my main point is, as you gathered, that so many of the cheap
and even not so cheap decks really are mechanically and sonically
compromised and much better results can be had for not much more money.
I still believe that the SL-1200 offers remarkable value for money
compared to the vastly inflated prices of other turntables on the
market. It's amazing how baseless trends can become more important that
actual performance and real value. It's certainly frustrating to see
that some magazines continue to print ludicrous rubbish on their pages
to the extent that they seem to have become superficial and quite
ridiculous comics. Two or three biassed paragraphs on a 1/4 page just
isn't enough. Where are the impartial, scientifically controlled
technical test reports and objective blind listening tests? Nowhere in
one magazine.
As for CD's then they can sound very good indeed. However there are
some that are not produced to the best standards, whether that is due
to poor production or mastering or bad pressing I am not sure, but the
sound can be thin, brittle and tiring. Having said that the best
digital recordings are extremely good and I have no complaints.
The thing about vinyl, I suppose, is that it is very tactile, great to
handle, and that adds to the emotional experience - especially when one
is playing age old favourite discs. It needs a great turntable though!
Happy Listening, Mike.
Hello again Mike, Just thought I'd drop you a line to say that after
quite a long lay off I fired up the Technics last night and I have to
say that even now I am no less impressed. That speed of response and
tight base and melody hmmm!
I can vouch for those Sorbothane feet thingies too. I've added some
50mm to replace the standard 4 feet to the deck and it does make a
considerable difference through isolation - worth doing I think. I have
also added some smaller ones to my Kairn pro pre amp.
Doing up an old LR Defender 90 and it'll be some time before she's on
the road. Hope at some time to install a CB in her so I'll have to read
your section on CB in your site thoroughly soon - so thanks in advance!!
Anyway hope you are all well and enjoying your Easter break.
Regards, Paul Norris. (April 2010)
Hello Mike, I am in the process of putting the finishing touches to a
website, related to a new microproccessor-based plug-and-play reversing
module, developed and designed to be fitted to TECHNICS
SL-1200 and SL-1210 turntables and their many variants. http://4thstateaudio.co.uk/
Best regards, Richard
Warwick, Timetec Electronics (April 2010)
Hi Mike, My KAB EV-1 cleared customs
last Thursday and has now been in use for a day or so. I am
really pleased with it; my vinyl sounds very, very different, and the
KAB is very simple and easy to use.
No mess. Excellent. I have now invested in some isopropyl
alcohol and distilled water to mix my own record cleaner.
Customs Info: The customs end is now handled by Parcelforce, who
will send out an invoice once the package clears customs. You can
track your package right the way through to delivery. You can pay
the customs duty and VAT fee (mine was £29.62) online and obtain
next day delivery. Good service too.
I will be emailing Kevin with my 100% praise of this miraculous little
machine. Who needs a built in motor or vacuum when this little
thing works so well? http://www.kabusa.com
Regards to you and yours and thank you for your friendly advice and
support and for publicising KABUSA.
David (March 2010)
Hello, I was reading some stories about the troubles some people have
had in
obtaining a decent turntable. It made me realize that I was very
fortunate that back in the year of 1976, my neighbor friend who
accompanied me to a store called Highland Appliance recommended that I
purchase the Marantz 6300 turntable along with the Sansui 8080 receiver
I bought.
I've been involved in audio gear all of my life and I was even fitting
old style turntables with magnetic cartridges back around the year of
1970. I discovered how much better a MM cartridge sounded verses a
ceramic type which was the usual type found on nearly all systems
available to most (unaware) consumers. I eventually received an Ampex
Micro 87R receiver in 1973 along with a
Garrard TT and this, I thought, was the cat's ass at my young age.
But, the reason I am mainly writing was to share the fact that I was
fortunate to have hooked onto the Marantz 6300 deck which kept me from
falling victim to all of the hyped up turntables mentioned in your
story section.
And now, I've gone through the ownership of a Dual 1229, which has
caused me quite a bit of grief and no longer being used. I also have a
few other decks, one an older Pioneer that I finagled to run at 78 RPM
and fitted with a Shure cart/stylus for that purpose.
I got back into vinyl three years ago after talking to a fellow
co-worker so the Marantz came back out and it needed a few tweaks. It's
a peculiar table in regards to the electronics inside. It's given me
its share of issues too but it is again running well. I am using a
Shure M97xE cart in it.
I also purchased a used Technics SL1200 from Guitar Center and it plays
extremely well. Just like it's stated on your web site. What a gem of
a machine. I am using an Audio Technica 440mL cart on that machine.
I just bought an Audio Technica PL120 last week and I fitted a Stanton
cart for 78's onto it and I am currently using a Stanton 681EEE cart
but I just ordered an Audio Technica 120 E/T cartridge today for it.
Not because I read about it here, but I heard about it on an audio
forum once. And being the AT 440mL sounds so sweet, I thought the 120
would too.
I once purchased a Thorens TD-190 deck and it was shockingly cheaply
made and it howled so bad at minimal volume, I didn't get past the
first track on a Neil Young reissue Lp without putting it back in the
box and sending it back. That ordeal cost me 45 dollars just in
shipping and return charges.
I tried a Gemini DJ type of TT once too with the same isolation issues.
It went back to Guitar Center the same day. I also have a Satnton
straigh-arm deck fitted with a Shure Hi-Track. I don't use it though
due to the arm. It also has isolation issues. I packed it with foam and
that helped some.
The Technic's SL1200 is a great deck though and I really just wanted to
add my opinion to the list of others who are using it. For those
heading into vinyl, I recommend it highly. It's a solid machine and
very well isolated. It's a joy to use too.
It's too easy to waste a lot of time and money on other machines so I
thought I would add my story in hopes of helping others out.
Gary Pichini (Feb 2010)
Hi, Terrific article! I had given up hope that I'd ever again
read a proper review of any piece of hi-fi gear again. Good, objective
writing on the
subject of 2-channel audio seems to be a lost art. Not lost, really.
Abandoned is a better way to put it. I'm not an engineer and have
little scientific education but I cut my audio teeth on the work of the
great audio reviewers of the past and their real-world experience with
electronic theory and design. I grow increasingly impatient with people
that accept without discrimination the various undisciplined ramblings
that issue forth from the "high-end" publications ,especially the ones
in my own land (U.S). I especially appreciated the author's
having taken on the modern British manufacturers, that took courage.
It's the same here, really. You want to take pride in the
domestic producers but when you're asked to pay substantially more
money for something that's not competitive you tend to dig your heels
in. Just for comparison, I own a Revolver Red turntable and an old
Garrard (there's no other kind now, sadly) Zero 2000B that has two
decades on the Music Hall product and even this relic is light-years
ahead of the Revolver in terms of engineering finesse and
sophistication. As a non-audiophile friend once quipped about my
Revolver, "it looks like a cheese board with a tone arm attached". As
much as I love the thing, I had to concur.
By some twisted logic, the high-end press and it's followers seem to be
of the opinion that a product designed a major manufacturer with a
large R&D budget somehow cannot be "musical" , a bit of absurdity
that I cannot wrap my brain around. I hope that the SL-1200 and all
other solidly-engineered and sensibly priced audio products remain in
production long enough to see out these dark ages we're through living
now. One can only hope.
I thoroughly enjoyed the humorous products page [link]. The fact that
there are far less plausible products actually being manufactured and
sold will be lost on many, I'm certain :-)
P.S. I hear now that certain high-end TT manufacturers are re-inventing
the wheel in the form of devices that use idler puck drive. Now I've
heard everything. I think it's time leave high-fidelity behind and find
a sensible hobby..like swatting hornet's nests with table tennis bats
or bungee jumping over dry river beds.
For this relief from all the silliness out there, many thanks.
Ray (June 2009)
Hi Mike, An update on the redoubtable SL-1200 Mk IIl. I like it better
the more I use it. I seldom ever buy Compact Discs anymore in fact. My
second hand example I paid US$ 50 for is giving yeoman service daily. I
am a broadcast engineer and vinyl mastering engineer (have been for
some years). The only thing better in playback is listening to that
disc played back on the lathe turntable with a SME 3009. Very little
better as a matter of fact and that combo costs many times more
money. SL-1200, why not? It's reliable and accurate day in and day out.
What you hear is what you get! Can't say that about most other options,
some of which cost many times more investment. And it don't need
endless tweaks every month or so. A sound investment.
Kent Teffeteller
(June 2009)
Hi Mike, Just letting you know that the new SL-1210 is all up and
running here - and it's great! (But then you said it would be!).
Thanks to my friend who came over with his protractor 'suite' we did
take very special care in setting up cartridge. As far as the sound is
concerned the deck is - well, nothing short of fabulous. What an impact
and such a controlled sound with an extension of the inter-instrumental
depth. The sound stage and individual soundings appear wider and
longer. There is another dimension to the musicality from my own old
source vinyls and there are also additional sounds on some of my
recordings that I have never heard before.
My friend has gone away seriously impressed. He's pretty clever so I
hope he doesn't end up feeling too bad (Rega!).
Thank you for keeping me on the straight and narrow - there are
soooo many distractions.
Thought you may like to know that I have settled on 1.7 grammes for the
cartridge weight as it sounded more complete - there must be a
reason for this.
Something that has made a remarkable difference, and for the better, is
to have (sadly because they looked quite good) removed the feet that
came on the deck and to have replaced them with some 'Sorbothane' ones
that fit in the cups that remain. I did the old sceptical with and
without several times and the sound is much clearer and much more
wholesome with them.
Do you realise that I have not used the Linn CD player for a long while
now!!!!
Best wishes,
Paul Norris
(May 2009)
Mike, It is refreshing to hear
an honest perspective concerning vinyl
playback. Most Rega and Pro-Ject turntables I have heard are completely
unable to pass basic requirements for build quality and speed
stability. They are afraid to post meaningful specifications concerning
their performance.
The Technics SL-1200 is a music maker and makes me smile hearing it
play my cherished vinyl. It sounds wonderful with all music. Nothing
has as black of a background and is so devoid of rumble. If Rega built
it, it would be sold for 80,000 GBP!
Kent Teffeteller
(April 2009)
Thanks Kent - All so true!
Mike,
Thank you for your thorough and well written review of the SL-1200MK2.
My experience is somewhat parallel to yours, in that I grew up with
vinyl, hopped on the CD bandwagon, yet always knew there was something
missing from CD playback (although the last 5-7 years major
improvements have been made). Due in no small part to your excellent
review, I have purchased a SL-1200MK2 at the low, low price of $395.00
delivered to my door. As a matter of fact, I got it yesterday and am
still waiting for the cartridge to arrive, so I have not yet heard it.
For the past few years,always knowing that "someday" I would get back
to my vinyl roots, I have dispatched a small army of vinyl finders
scouring used book shops and estate sales for the best albums they
could find. Armed with info on the best record labels, best vinyl
condition and my preferences, they (and I) have amassed about ten
lineal feet (about 9 meters) of some of the best wax we could find from
the late '50's, the 1960's and early 1970's. My cartridge cannot arrive
soon enough, as I am "chomping at the bit" to start spinning these
albums. I tell you this simply to let you know that your review
precipitated my SL-1200MK2 purchase and will soon open my ears up again
to the vivid pleasures of vinyl playback.
Thanks so much, Rick Falgione
(February 2009)
Mike,
I was overjoyed to read your "SL1200 / Rega" ramblings...
After
1000 years of pro audio (originally as a recording engineer &
partly responsible for "Save your kisses for me" !!! ) I've just "re
born" my vinyl cutting gear and service. .... I started
replaying
cuts, on the lathes own platter (incidentally driven by a huge Quartz
locked Technics motor) and a Rega RB300 arm, fitted with a Stanton
AL500 cartridge. The idea being, it should represent a DJ deck, and the
most important bits of that being : A hi track weight
cartridge
with spherical stylus, &, a bulk standard arm of not
too good
or "tweaky" quality. That's all fine of course, until you get a "direct
to disc" classical music job! All of a sudden, you need a
somewhat better replay facilities. So, I do the decent thing, and look
around at "Hi-Fi" decks.
Sure enough...... all your ramblings and even "accusations" are 100%
correct. Regas and Pro-Jects run fast. Not only that, but they're
awful! Don't sound at all healthy, naff standards of
engineering,
and, well, just awful.
For a laugh, I tried a Project Genie - now that you would have loved to
have experienced ....
Straight out of the box, the factory set up arm (fitted with a
discontinued heap of rubbish from Ortofon) was trying to drag the
stylus off the record, back towards it's flimsy arm rest. So,
out
came the test disc. The point when I noticed the distinct lack of "anti
skate" or "bias" device ! Having re-set the arm's VTA (previously
factory set remember) the lack of "anti skate" proved it completely
impossible to track any of the 4 bias test tones without distortion,
and refused to even sit in the groove on 2 ! It was only when putting
it back in it's box I noticed you could both see and feel (by eye/hand)
the join in the drive belt ! This, while cheap, IS marketed as an
"audiophile" unit, AND, got wonderful things said about it by the likes
of "What Hi-Fi".
Seems to me we are in need of a revolution against "stupidism" and
vested interestism !!
I was, in the death, so appalled by the "Hi-Fi" industry's current
record deck nonsense, I dug out an old Technics SL1500 (now that IS
old!) to use as a playback machine for "DJ" work, and am fitting a
SME3009 to the lathe, to become a "better quality" playback. The SL is
fitted with the Stanton "disco" cartridge, while the SME on the lathe
has a Grado - and, after all that, the ability to run 2 types of
cartridge (one spherical, one elliptical) is all I really want.
It does help if it's at the right speed, and the arm can actually
support the cartridge though; Two very fundamental requirements of a
record deck I would say!
I've lived and worked with the SL1200's for many years. So much so,
I've kind of taken them for granted, but, after this recent hoohah, I'm
with you - long live the SL1200.
Regards,
Karl.
(December
2008)
Hi
Karl,
Thanks for your email.
Unfortunately, as you have found out, we still seem to be in the grip
of utter stupidity as far as the Hi-Fi press is concerned and as you
have found out, junk is junk - something not recognized or admitted by
What Hi-Fi.
Bizzare!
Mike,
Just a quick
note
to thank you
for putting up your site. I have been toying with the idea of
replacing my old 30+ year old and rather sick Mitsubishi LT-20
turntable. I had spotted the Technics SL-1200 MK II early in
my
search for replacement, but continued looking for other
candidates. I was rather balking at the $700 CDN plus price
tag
for a Technics turntable that had no cartridge. Well, that
was
until I read your review of it.
I ordered a
black
SL-1200 MkII
yesterday and will shop for a suitable cartridge on Boxing
Day.
Thanks so much for your site, it provided some interesting reading on
subjects, other than vinyl.
Thanks again
and I
will drop you a line when I have put the machine through its paces.
Regards
Cornell
Cochrane,
Alberta,
Canada
(December 2008)
Hi Cornell, Thanks for your email. I am sure that you will be
thoroughly delighted with the SL-1200. It's true that it is a little
expensive in comparison to more ordinary (and inferior) turntables ,
but its real value is far exceeds its price tag.
Take care with installing the cartridge. I found that it is worth
taking plenty of time carefully fine tuning the cartridge geometry
using a good protractor such as one from VinylEngine. This minimizes
any possible tracing errors and so maximises your musical enjoyment. I use an Audio
Technica AT120 which is excellent.
Our local BBC Radio station, BBC WM, uses a pair of SL-1200's fitted
with Ortofon OM cartridges and they always sound excellent when they
are playing vinyl.
Cheers, Mike
Hi Mike , I'm
john
from Canada. Stumbled on your website, love it .
I've been
into
vinyl for years,
have had new cheapie tuntables, or yard-sale finds, with mixed results.
Getting ready to indulge in something better, so started researching
,and then found you... My brand new technics SLl1200 mk2 just
arrived today; beautifull!!
I'm waiting
for a new Audio
Technica cartridge to arrive, then i'm on my way. Just want to say
thanks, for your enthusiasm and all the great info !!!
Johnny
(October 2008)
Hi Mike,
Your
experiences
are very close
to mine. I purchased a Rotel RP850 back in 1987 and I still
have
it. I also find the CDs better to listen to but hanker for
decent
vinyl reproduction. I went and auditioned a very expensive
Project and a Rega P3-24 and I found their sound about the same as my
old Rotel... I was also unconvinced. I also had a listen to a
Michel Gyrodec and that was impressive... but it also very
expensive. I had decided that it was better to keep my old
turntable.
Your views on
the
Technics
SL1200, have me intrigued. If what you say is correct this
turntable should sound better than mid range Regas and even quite
expensive Projects.
I have seen
Rega
arm conversions
for the SL1200 but I'm a bit doubtful that this will have a sonic
benefit given the inferior bearings that a most probably used in
something like a Rega RB250 arm, the stock arm should work fine I think.
My plan is as
follows:
1. Buy an
SL1210 (I
like the black too).
2. Put on
some
isolation feet (Isonoes or similar)
3. Get the
KAB
fluid damper and strobe disabler
4. Get an
Audio
Technica AT440MLa MM cartridge
5. Get a good
quality headshell like a Sumiko HS-12
6. Find an
alternative to the slipmat that comes with the Technics... any
suggestions on the mat or should I leave it stock?
I am betting
that
this combo
should give better sound than a Rega P3-24, Project or similar
turntables and for less money. I'm betting that it won't be
much
different to the Gyrodec either.
As for the
other
KAB mods like
Cardas tonearm re-wires, external PSU, etc I think these mods are
probably expensive given their incremental sonic benefits... still nice
to know you can take things further.
Thank you for
posting this
information on the web, as I would have overlooked the Technics
thinking that it is a cheap plastic DJ turntable.
Nicholas Koulbanis.
(October 2008)
Hi Nicholas, Thanks very much for your detailed email.
I am glad that you found my pages interesting. While I have not
compared an SL-1200 with turntables in the price range of the Michel
Gyrodec, I feel certain that anyone who has experienced
other belt
drive turntables of a similar or lower price will find the SL-1200 a
revelation.
I cannot comment on the tweaks and upgrades that you mention as,
personally, I am entirely satisfied with my SL-1210 and AT-120
combination. That's not to say that such tweaks would not make a
difference, but I would imagine them to be extremely small differences.
I would think that the most significant differences would come from
spending time setting up the arm and cartridge - well that's what I
found. I would not dismiss the standard arm - it seems very good indeed
to me and there is no attractiob whatsoever in removing it and
replacing it with anything else. I think that it is a fine piece of
engineering.
A cheap plastic DJ turntable it is NOT!! Thanks again.
In May 2009 Nicholas updated us:
Hi, I have taken the
plunge and purchased an SL1210 M5G. Wow!!! I am blown away with
the sound quality I am getting from this turntable, I'm listening to my
vinyl as if it was the first time again.
I have taken your advice
and have ensured that the cartridge has been aligned correctly (I used
a MINT Protractor) and purchased a KAB EV1 to clean my records.
These 2 simple things have had a very noticeable impact on the quality
of playback.
In fact I went a bit crazy spening some $$$ on it. I ended up
with the following Vinyl fromt end: KAB Fluid Damper; KAB Strobe
Disabler; KAB Thick Rubber Mat; Zupreme Heashell; Audio Techica OC9II
Moving Coil Cartridge; A Bob's Devices Cinemag Setup transformer;
Project PhonoBox II SE feed with 15V DC power; I use the Disc Doctor
record cleaning solution, the KAB EV1, a carbon fibre brush and a Milty
Zero Stat gun to keep the records clean and quiet.
I get virually no surface noise and the sound is dynamic, impactful and
very realistic... I was going to dispose of my vinyl and now I'm glad I
did not. Thanks again for
bring this great turntable to our attention.
Nicholas Koulbanis -
Melbourne, Australia (May 2009)
Hi mike
I just
thought
i would drop you a line to say having looked at your
site, 3 days later i have a brand new SL1210 mk2 with a AT120e.
And i love it
the
build and finnish are gobsmakingly good i have
only had a quick listen but i know a good deck when i
hear it, you
see i have owned a couple of the finest turntables
that money can buy
in the past ' a LINN LP12 cirkus/lingo/ekos/troika, then a
VOYD .5
reference SME 310/gregory music maker cart this was £6,000
front end
,alas i had to sell that as i took out a
mortgage , then lastly a
roksan radius 5 /goldring 1006 which was very good but fiddly and
annoying to use.
But for just
£320 + the cart i am staggered by this deck i think it
betters the roksan and comes close if not beating the linn, certainly
the valhalla one.
Anyway
thankyou for
your site its got me loving vinyl again.
Chris Evans.
(September 2008)
An excellent story. Thanks!!
Servicing A Technics SL-1200
Hi Mike,
I thought I'd drop you a quick note after reading your page on
the
1200 turntable. I stumbled across your site while googling for "IBA map"
I have spent a considerable number of years servicing these turntables
and other "DJ" turntables. I can tell you with some authority that they
are built like no other turntable on the market.
They are a joy to service and every component is available via spare
right down to the tiny ball bearings in the arm gimbal.
The brake and quartz timing occasionally need tweaking (easily done
with the aid of an oscilloscope) however the speed control linear pot
can fail in a number of ways over time, including not being able to
"lock on" at centre position. The only solution is to replace which is
a 30 minute job at worst.
The cause of most damage (after beer and smoke fluid) is the forceful
removal of the platter.
If you don't need to remove the platter, then don't. It wont need
removing unless you want access to the service panel beneath, under
which there are no user serviceable parts.
Congrats on the [amateur
radio] license,
Stuart.
(August 2008)
From Charles Horton...
What a
terrific
website you
have! As a new Technics SL-1200Mk2 owner I was thrilled to read about
your adventures with it and about what a great unit it is.
I'd always
been
vaguely
intrigued by vinyl but took a long time to get into it. I had an old
(1950s) tube set with a very finicky turntable that required a lot of
coaxing to work -- the technology was quite backwards but the glorious
old tubes gave it a wonderful sound nonetheless. Telefunken 12AX7!!
Thick and rich.
A few years
back I
was given one
of those cheesy USB turntables as a present. Opened the box, found that
it was packed such that the cheesy plastic platter had warped on the
way across the Pacific, exchanged it for a fresh one which promptly
went on a certain internet auction site. Went on Craigslist (local
online classifieds) and bought an old Sony turntable for 20 bucks.
Nothing fancy, but it worked.
A year or so
after
that, I found
a local audio hobbyist who was selling a bunch of his excess gear. For
$120 I got a Thorens TD115Mk2 with a hum problem, a NAD of some flavor
or other, a Technics SL-1700 with a bad needle, 4 tape decks, and 2
used cartridges. Installed the Stanton in the Technics, thought it was
super...
Along came a
real
blessing,
about a week ago. There was an ad on the same site for a "Technics
record player." The picture was not very good but one could clearly see
it was an SL-1200Mk2, and the price was excellent. The seller even
threw in a bunch of sweet cartridges and styli, and since then I feel
like I have a little slice of heaven connected to my system. CD's? Who
needs CD's? What a fantastic bit of kit.
Thanks again
for
your Technics site -- it was very informative and fun to read!
Charles
(August 2008)
Hi Mike,
You want to hear something crazy...
When I first got back into vinyl several years ago, the table I bought
was a Rotel RP-955 that looks exactly like the 855 you had. I don't buy
into all the Rega / Pro-ject "buzz" either unless you're looking in the
$1000.00 price-range. You're absolutely right. How good is a turntable
that won't even spin at the right speed?
So... after awhile of noticing there was some speed drift... and stylus
drag seemed to have an effect at times due to the Rotel's wimpy DC
servo motor... Also wasn't crazy about the arm... I looked
further into what was out there and ended up with a SL-1200MKII.
Actually, I tried a used Sony PS-X5 for awhile that made me appreciate
direct-drive and decided to go all the way and buy a new Technics 1200
when the Sony developed some problems.
I've tried just about every cartridge in my price-range on it.. AT440ML
(too thin), Shure M97xE (too thick, lowish output)... I used a Denon
DL-103 for a long time, but after awhile realized the imaging was
pretty poor, even though it was reasonably easy on the ears.
What ended up on the tonearm of my Technics? That's right... the
AT120E. Sounds quite a bit like the Denon that cost more than 2 times
as much, but the imaging is better and the soundstage doesn't fall
apart. Still slightly warm and easy to listen to, with just a little
more "air" and frequency extension than the Denon had.
So basically... We sort of started out at the same place and ended up
at the same place... Pretty wild!!!
Great site. Keep 'em spinnin'!!!
Roy
(April 2008)
Hi Mike,
Just a quick "Hello" to let you know folk do
stop by
and
read! Funny thing though i was looking for record cleaning
bits
well over an hour ago and ended up on you site till now :-)
so you must have something right ;), Read about
your
vinyl
persuasions( ooerr) and the info on cartridges too along with
the
off shoot for the phono amp project - reminded me of an old 741 based
jobby i built when i was about 14!! for use with headphones -
fab
it was too.
Briefly before i do shut up, your about
me
page is scarily
familiar, no i don't have one but we do share quite a few habits/hobbies
and near as dammit age - 1964 for me.
Thanks for keeping me occupied, in a good way
unlike
the E.U & Blair.
Cheers, Steve from Norfolk
(April 2008)
Dear Mike, Someone should give you an award for the Technics SL-1200
page. I had already bought one second hand and was delighted with it
and came upon your pages on a search and was delighted to see someone
had already put into words everything I felt about it.
If only more people 'duped' by all those hi-fi magazines came upon your
pages they'd be saved a lot of trouble and heartache (and indigestion!)
Cheers, George
(February 2008)
Buying A Second Hand Technics SL-1200
I mentioned elsewhere on these
pages
that I would not recommend buying
a second hand Technics SL-1200 on ebay, or indeed, any other turntable.
Then I received an e-mail from Graham. I have edited the ensuing
correspondence as it was quite lengthy, but all the salient points are
here:
Hi
Mike,
Thanks
for the amazing website and sharing your expertise.
I
just bid on 2 SL1210 MK2's and
won. Then I looked at one reply to a letter you wrote where you said
you would never buy these units 2nd hand from a DJ. That is exactly
what I have done and I feel a little sick now.
Is
there any quick way to tell if these units are damaged when I get them?
I'm receiving them in 2 days time... I'm using the turntables as playback
units in my vinyl record shop that I am opening here in Simon's Town,
South Africa. The shop overlooks the little harbour, so that's nice.
Kind
regards, Derek.
(February
2008)
Hi Derek, Thanks
for
your email.
I would look for obvious signs
of
knocks, bashes, bumps, scrapes and
drops that would demonstrate serious abuse. If they have been used for
heavy DJ use they will very probably show signs of normal wear and
tear, e.g. worn markings worn and scuff marks etc. It is the real
damage from knocks and bumps that you need to be careful of. Check for
anything that is cracked or broken.
I would think that the really
critical parts that you need to pay
particular attention to are the main bearing and, of course, the arm.
Both of these items can be bought as spares. The arm and particularly
the arm bearings are extremely sensitive and fragile, as you will
appreciate it is a high precision device. You need to ensure that there
are no visual signs of damage or mis-use. Also ensure that
there
is no 'play' in the arm and that it works smoothly and
balances
properly. A new arm (without weight, head-shell, or arm-rest) would
probably cost about £60.00 - £70.00 I imagine.
The main bearing needs to be
lubricated with the proper Technics
bearing oil every 2000 hours of use. Use Technics SFW-010 spindle oil.
I would do this before I used the turntables. If required, a new
spindle assembly would probably cost about £30.00 -
£40.00
I imagine.
It probably goes without
saying, but
I'll say it anyway: If the
turntables came with cartridges and styli fitted, don't even think
about using the fitted styli! Get new styli to match the cartridge
before you play ANY records! A worn or damaged stylus, or an out of
specification arm, could irreparably ruin all your precious records -
one by one by one!
I hope all is ok with your new
turntables, but if not, it is fortunate
that most of the main parts can be bought as spares and replaced.
Remember that your record collection is is easily damaged and likely to
be worth a lot more than turntables in this price range.
Technics spares should be
available
from good Technics dealers or
services centres, or directly from the Technics head office in your
country. If in difficulty Kevin Barrett of KAB USA stocks all main
parts as spares (Spindle/bearing; arm and arm parts;
lid/dust cover; hinges etc) and will despatch to many parts of
the
world.
(As it turned out
the
turntables were to be sold without
cartridges and Derek enquired as to whether the Audio Technica AT-95
would be a good choice. I thought that the AT-110E would be a far
better alternative since this tracks at a nice light 1.5 grams, whereas
the AT-95 would have to be set to track at a rather heavy 2.0 to 2.5
grams. The AT110E is also not much more expensive and considering it's
excellent sound quality is a real bargain. However Derek could not
obtain an AT110E locally but did find a Grado Prestige Green, which
should also be a very good choice.)
Then I got this
email
from Derek:
Hi Mike,
The turntables arrived yesterday in a shocking state. The sender had
packed them loosely in boxes much too big and scattered some newspaper
around the units. The boxes were thin cardboard. When they arrived and
saw the crushed boxes, I feared the worst. I was right.
The one dust cover is smashed. The tonearm is broken, the arm rest has
snapped off. The platter was out of the socket and rolling about. I am
concerned due to the "please be careful when you remove the platter for
the sake of the magnet" warning.
Neither unit came with headshells so I'll have to order one from
Kabusa. Anyway, Just thought I'd let you know. I am kicking myself for
not buying a new one. Cheers, Derek
This is of course
bad
news and is the risk that you run
when buying from an auction site. I would have to say that wherever you
bought them from, you must surely have a right to send them
back. A turntable is a high precision electro-mechanical
device
and must be treated with the utmost care, which is not the case here.
Before you consider throwing
any more
money at this - please try to send them back for a refund. This is
completely unacceptable.
....... Then after some
deliberation,
Derek decided to grasp the nettle
and buy a brand new Technics SL-1200. A very wise choice. The second
hand turntables that arrived in thin cardboard boxes were quite
obviously trashed. The only course of action would be to pursue the
seller for a refund or sell them on as spares or repair. I certainly
wouldn't want any of my records to come anywhere near one of these
wrecks!
In conclusion, we can all learn
a
very important lesson from Derek's
terrible experiences. While I have bought and sold various hi-fi
components on ebay such as loudspeakers and electronic components very
successfully, I would never ever risk buying a turntable. It is
impossible to be absolutely certain that the turntable has been treated
with the necessary respect during its previous ownership. Additionally
you just cannot be sure that it will be packaged properly so that it
will not be trashed in the post.
(February 2008)
A FURTHER UPDATE:
Derek's brand new SL1200 arrived....
Hi
Mike,
I
am so happy to tell you that I received my new SL1210 this morning. I
carefully set it up ...... then I thoroughly cleaned Crisis What Crisis
and put it on.
It
sounds so good I am so happy! I haven't listened to that record on
vinyl for 30 years. I have frequently listened to the CD version
though. Well, It's like a different record completely. The bass.... so
clear and funky (I was a pro bass player for 20 years). It
really
sounds
so
good
I
can't
tell
you. Cheers
Mike, Derek.
Digitizing
Vinyl Records using your PC
Hi,
I followed a
link
to your site from the KAB USA site. Excellent page about the 1200 and
vinyl!
Might I just
suggest that you
list FLAC as an option for people wanting to compress WAV files without
loss of detail? FLAC typically gets WAV files down to 50% or less of
their size, and can be played back in most music player software
(though not all portable devices support it). It is mainly useful for
archiving, as it un-compresses back to the original WAV with no loss of
information. http://flac.sf.net
Declan Kelly
(February 2008)
Thanks for that advice Declan. For those requiring some compression but
with the highest possible digital quality then FLAC would certainly be
a very good choice.
Moving
Coil Cartridges
A
Query
from
reader
Anton
from
Tallin:
"Hi!
You have
GREAT
website. Appreciate your efforts.
I am music
lover
from Estonia,
former Soviet republic, now EU member. I am considering buying me
Technics 1210MK2 as my first T/T.
My amp
(Exposure XV
Super) has
built in MC phono stage. So I wonder if it is possible to use MC type
cartridge (like Denon 160) with Technics 1210MK2. And what it takes to
use MC head - just "plug & play" or some complicated work (arm
change, soldering etc) is required?
This question
can
sound silly,
but I have zero experience with T/Ts so far. I plan to order the T/T
from a local online dj store and I asked them the question.
But
seems DJs are using only MM cartridges, so they did not know about MC.
You help will
be
appreciated.
Best regards,
Anton"
(January 2008)
Hi
Anton,
Thanks for your email.
While I don't pretend to be a total expert as far as MC's go, I may be
able to offer a few clues.
I have never tried an MC cart in the SL-1200 to I cannot relate any
direct experiences. I will say that as a platform for spinning vinyl at
a constant, stable and un-erring speed without unnecessary resonances
the SL-1200 cannot be beaten at the price.
Hi-Fi nerds seem to largely ignore this amazing hi fi gem, which I
think is very unfair indeed. I say "baahh" to their stupid blind
ignorance!
If a weak point could be identified with the SL-1200 system it might be
the arm. Not because it's an S shaped arm, but that it is made of
several components, rather than a one piece unit like some other
turntables employ. Although I don't think it is a real issue, I imagine
that it may not be as mechanically rigid as a one piece arm or carbon
fibre arm. Also the SL-1200's arm would be of slightly higher mass than
the low mass arms that can be found on some other turntables.
Personally I love the arm!
However, having said all that, I don't think that any of this would be
a disadvantage as far as fitting a moving coil cartridge is concerned.
The reason I say this is that MC cart's are often better partnered with
medium mass arms.
Low mass arms would be classified as being less than 10 grams, medium
mass arms would be classified as being between 11 and 25 grams, high
mass arms would be classified as being over 25 grams. The SL-1200 arm
is a nice low-medium mass of 12 grams, precision made with extremely
low bearing friction.
Given a good MC cart and a top quality RIAA pre-amp I think that it
could be a good combo.
Short of changing the arm on the SL-1200 (which can certainly be done,
although I am uncertain as to whether this would really be huge
advantage), the only reasonably cost effective upgrades that
you
might consider is an arm and phono cable inter-connect re-wire with
higher quality OFC wire and gold connectors and the addition of the KAB
KL-1200 Fluid Damper system;
http://www.kabusa.com/frameset.htm?/index.htm
Oh, I nearly forgot, no soldering is necessary when fitting a
cartridge. In fact the heat from soldering would likely damage the
cartridge.
The most important thing is getting the geometry correct, as I describe
on my web pages. It's fairly straightforward, but can be a bit fiddly
and time consuming, but it does make all the difference!
Hope that helps.
Regards,
Mike
Many thanks,
Mike!
You answered
my
questions completely. I will start saving for an SL-1210.
I was
pleasantly
surprised to
receive such long reply from you. It is getting rare nowadays that
people bother to waste their time on helping total strangers, but you
took the time!
Best Regards,
Anton
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have any
comments we'd love to hear from you!
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Hi Mike
An excellent
website if I may say!
I'm looking
to buy
an SL1200 and
having got fed up with overpriced under cared for examples on Ebay I'm
looking further afield.....namely America. What do you know about the
power supplies in these? Is it external or internal? if it's internal
is it possible to switch to UK voltage? if it's external can you buy a
replacement really enough?
Thanks in
advance!
Kind regards,
Graham
Hi Graham,
Unfortunately many DJ's turntables get thrown about, dropped and
battered with heavy deejay use. It is a testament to the strength and
build quality of the SL1200 that they continue to work - but for home
hi-fi use I would never buy one second hand!
The power supply is internal and fixed for local voltage as I
understand it. If you bought one from the USA it would be 110
volts 60Hz and would be unsuitable for UK use. You would most likely
have to buy a UK 230 volt, 50 Hz power supply locally, strip out the
North American
power supply and replace it with the UK spare.
I don't think that this process would be economically viable due to the
cost of buying a new power supply and having it fitted. Also you'd lose
all your warranty by dismantling the SL1200 to retro-fit a UK power
supply - not that you would have any warranty anyway if you import from
the States - that would go out of the window!
I know it's quite expensive, but the only safe way to get one is from
an *authorised* UK dealer.
As a second line, you could look to buying one in from Europe since
they also use 230 volts. Compared to the Dollar exchange rate the Euro
isn't as favourable, but it may give a slight edge over UK prices.
You'd have to carefully look into delivery costs, duties and warranty
implications though.
Personally I would not take the risk. I'd save up a few more quid and
get the real deal in the UK.
Just my own thoughts.
Mike.
Hi Mike,
Wise advice I
feel,
thanks very much. I'll get saving!
Very best
wishes
Graham
Hi Mike,
Came across
your
site whilst reading the Transmission1 forum on which I'm a member
(Beakster).
Ended
up skipping past all the CB stuff when I saw your section on the
Technics SL1200mk2. You certainly have written a lot about
it!!! =)
I too am a
big fan
of this turntable, but from a DJing point
of view, and was interested on hearing your views from a audiophile
perspective. I don't do much DJing now, but I still love
vinyl! So I
only usually have one deck set up for listening. I have been
toying
with the idea of "upgrading" to a belt drive turntable. I
have seen
those really expensive ones, mounted on spikes with glass platters and
assumed they were they way to go. Your site is the first one
I've seen
that says different, so made interesting reading.
The
turntables I
have are:
*Technics
SL1200mk2. I
bought this second hand for £300 in 2000. I was a
student and sold my
2 very cheap crappy Stageline turntables and bought this.
It's in
perfect condition and it was amazing how much stronger the motor was on
it compared with my old decks. I had to completely relearn my
beat
matching techniques as a result, but this was essential as all the
clubs used Technics. I soon customised my turntable by
changing the
store and 33/45 lights to ultrabright blue, which looks really cool!
*Technics
SL1200M3D. When I had the cash for a second deck, I
opted to import my next one. After reading the Japanese and
American
Technics sites, I was upset that I couldn't get the M3D in the UK, so
imported one. It was cheaper to buy the deck in the US, but I
got hit
with ridiculous fees for postage, import duty and VAT!!!
Still though,
its a very nice turntable, and having the pitch reset on a button
rather than at 0 is very useful for mixing.
So I've had
these
decks for about 7 years now, and they have
been used loads! They have been moved around the country lots
of
times, been taken to parties, but always looked after. They
have never
given me a single problem. Money well spent and I will never
sell
them!
I have them
sat
next to a Technics SU-Z22 amplifier which looks really cool and matches
the turntables nicely.
From
an audiophile point of view though, I am interested to know what you
think of this: The phono cables for the Technics are hard
wired into
the back. The plugs are not gold plated, and I imagine the
cable is
not as high quality as what you see for sales these says for
£100 per
meter. Do you think this affects the sound quality some
what. I may
at some point, when I have a better amp and speakers, buy some high
quality cables, and hard wire them in with gold solder, replacing the
old ones.
Cheers
-Chris
(December 2007)
Hi Mike,
Technics
SL1200 a legend. I amazed they still make them, long may it
last.
Moreover, a
stand-alone RIAA pre-amp.
This reminds
me of
a London pirate radio station I had the pleasure to build an on-air
studio for in 1983 called Horizon FM.
SL1200's were
de-rigeur and we
used Stanton 650s (? memory fading) cartridges, I built the RIAA
pre-amps using a chip designed for nothing else, as a kit, it was
supplied either by Ambit or Maplin, the chips were SIL not DIL and I
recall had very high dc + and - rails, could have been ±
24v, as
they were differential amps. I mounted them directly beneath the decks.
The combination was awesome.
I actually
built
the mixer by
cannibalising an old one using the PCBs but replacing the op-amps with
those JFET NE5532 you talk about, adding P+G conductive plastic faders,
they were old BBC ones and ran back to front and I added PPMs, I used
mic transformers, but I'm drifting off here.
The DJs
wanted
fader start, so
as the faders had the switches, I got inside the SL1200 and found a pin
on the control chip which latched logic low/high after the momentary
start/stop, I used this with an op-amp set up as a high impedance gate
to ensure that the fader start was a one-shot option, as the DJs would
often waggle the faders back over the switch.
Ah.
Nostalgia, it's
lost on the young.
Ian.
(December 2007)
Hi,
I own an old but serviceable Rega Planar 2 turntable and I wish to
return to listening to my vinyl collection. The arm is fitted
with the A&R C77 cartridge it came with all those years ago (!).
I'm unsure whether it's worn enough to warrant replacing. My questions
are:
What wear should I be looking for (with a strong magnifying glass)?
Can I still get a replacement stylus only and how would I go about changing it?
If no is the answer to No
2 what modestly priced cartridge would you recommend? I was looking to
spend in the region of £35.00 but that was before I looked at
some of the online prices so I'm open to suggestions.
Is getting involved with protractors etc necessary?
Mine is a very 'low-end'
20 years old system (Amplifier: Arcam Alpha playing through
Wharfedale Diamond IV speakers) I'm thinking of upgrading the latter to version 9.1.
Apologies for all the questions, I didn't think it would be so involved when I started! Many thanks in anticipation
Eric Dale. [11th January 2012]
Hi Eric,
Thanks for your email. No problem with all the questions. As far as I
am aware there are no more replacement styli available for your A&R
cartridge.
A magnifying glass probably isn't strong enough to see visible wear or
damage - you'd need a small microscope to see properly. My advice, when
resurrecting old equipment is to always fit a new stylus just to be
safe - you cannot afford to ruin your record collection for the sake of
an old, worn or damaged stylus. One play of a precious LP with a worn
stylus will ruin it irreparably. Since a replacement stylus is not
available for your A&R, my only advice is to buy a new cartridge.
What about an Ortofon OM5E, or an Audio Technica AT95, or a Goldring
Elektra or perhaps the budget Red Ed Elliptical. All good value.
As for the alignment of the cartridge I would say that a protractor is
absolutely essential in order to obtain the best sound quality and get
the best from your turntable and LP collection. My advice is to refer
to the Rega instruction manual for their recommendations for setting up
a cartridge in this turntable.You will see links to alignment
protractors on my website. Do be careful how you print it though, the
scaling needs to be absolutely accurate. It's all explained in the
instructions however.
Once I printed mine out and was satisfied that it was of absolutely the
correct dimensions, I got it laminated (plastic coated), so that it
presented the stylus with a very smooth surface - i.e. the stylus would
not 'catch' in bare paper fibres or grain.
While you are studying the Rega manual I would also check what advice
there is on lubricating the main bearing - it may dried out after all
this time; additionally if it was me I would also change the rubber
drive belt immediately - it's probably stretched or may be perished. A
replacement should be easy to obtain.
The amplifier is very good, and the speakers should also be fine. If
you are looking for replacement loudspeakers in the future then I would
definitely recommend going to a dealer to sit down and listen to a
range of different models that are within your budget. You may find
some new Wharfedales that you like, but there are so many other good
loudspeakers to choose from you may very well find something a lot
better. Speakers are very personal and absolutely need to be auditioned
before buying at an expert Hi Fi dealer such as SuperFi. Ensure that
any speakers that are demonstrated to you are not fresh out of the box,
and have been run in for some time. Speakers can take tens of hours use
to break in properly. When you listen to some, you might find you do
indeed like Wharfedales, Missions or Quads. However listen to some
others too. e.g. Acoustic Energy(AE), Tannoy, Boston, Dali and Epos. I
think that you'd need to spend at least £200 on speakers today to
get something really worthwhile.
Apparently motor oil is recommended by Rega for lubricating the
bearing. They say: "If all is well, remove hub from bearing bush then
tilt the bearing bush and place two drops of Comma Hypoid EP80, Castrol
EPX80w/90 or Shell Spirax EP90, as recommended, in the position as
illustrated. Do not use more than two drops."
For full details see these pages on the Rega website:
http://www.rega.co.uk/service/service_html/Turntable/CleaningHubBearing.htm
http://www.rega.co.uk/service/service_html/Turntable/TurntableServicing.htm
All for now - I hope that helps.
Best wishes, Mike
Hi again, An impressively quick, comprehensive and generously helpful responseresponse: Thank you!
I haven't a copy of the
Rega manual but I guess it could be available as a PDF. I'm currently
awaiting delivery of an Audio Technica AT95E and a new drive belt.
I'll keep you posted once all parts are in place, set up and running.
Cheers, Eric.
--
Hello Again, It would seem from the servicing description that two
drops of oil after cleaning is all that's required. Since it is
possible after 20 years that lubrication is at a low level I'm going to
risk adding oil of the prescribed type to the bearing...but not yet!
The reason being that I don't want to rock the boat having today
successfully changed the cartridge and belt.
And what a fiddly job. I was confused also by the cartridge terminals
being the opposite way around from the A&R; i.e. input and earth,
so just as well the new cartridge came with a connection diagram
otherwise I'd have connected as removed. After setting up the fitted
cartridge ( I used the Baerwald Arc Protractor) and adjusting
anti-skate and tracking force all appears to be well and playing very
nicely. I have already noticed an improvement in clarity of sound.
The speakers aren't that bad actually, apart from some sibilance on
speech so I'm holding fire on that score. Time to settle down to enjoy
some vinyl!
The cartridge I bought from Bartlett's of Islington through Amazon and
the genuine Rega belt came from Synergy of Congleton, Cheshire
(cheapest I could find at £12.00 but still a lot of money for
what is essentially a rubber band!). Belts on offer on Ebay are a lot
cheaper and may be fine but are
square in section. As far as the cartridge is concerned I ended up spending 25 pence less than my budget of £35.00.
Very many thanks once again for all your help and advice....more than enough to restore anyone's faith in the internet.
Best wishes, Eric.
[18th January 2012]
Rega Planar Turntable Servicing Text:
Turntable Servicing
IMPORTANT: Decks must be stored in the correct position to avoid loss of hub/bearing lubricant.
When first setting up turntable
The following is only really necessary for turntables in cold countries
with low humidity, or for turntables that have been in stock for a long
period.
1. Check arm nut tightness. This should be between 15Nm and 25Nm ( see
explanation of torque ) and requires either an adjustable spanner or
Rega tool.
2. Check hub/bearing nut tightness. This should be approx. 5Nm ( again
refer to exlpanation of torque ) and requires either an adjustable
spanner or Rega tool.
After 5 years
1. Check tightness of both arm nut and hub bearing nut as above.
2. Check motor pulley is firmly attached. If loose, replace, (See refitting the turntable motor pulley)
3. Remove any hair, fluff or dirt from around the motor spindle and
place one drop of motor oil in both motor bearings, situated at the top
and bottom of motor around spindle (see Cleaning and Re-oiling motor)
4. Replace drive belt, if worn. (This is usually indicated by the turntable running fast).
5. Check arm bearings. If faulty, do not attempt to adjust. Return arm to Rega
6. If necessary, clean and re-grease lift/lower. (See Cleaning and replacement of lift/lower)
After 10 Years
Carry out all instructions listed under "After 5 Years" with the addition of the following points;
1. Remove hub/bearing and clean and re-oil. (Cleaning Hub/Bearing)
2. Remove motor cover plate and undo motor mounting screws.
3. Replace motor suspension 'O' ring as described here
4. Refit motor following the instructions Fitting Motor
5. Replace drive belt.
* * * *
Cleaning Hub/Bearing
1. Undo hub nut and remove washer. Remove hub/bearing from turntable. As
the brass bearing bush is designed to fit tightly in the plinth, gentle
tapping on the base of the bearing bush with a plastic hammer may be
necessary. (We advise that this is not done in front of the customer!)
2. Slowly withdraw the hub from the brass bearing bush, (if the hub is
pulled out quickly the ball bearing may inadvertently be sucked out and
lost). Remove ball bearing by turning the bearing bush upside down and
tapping sharply.
3. It is important that both the hub spindle and the inside of the
bearing bush are cleaned and degreased thoroughly. This is best done
using a solvent cleaner containing 1.1.1. trichloroethane which is
available from R.S Components Ltd. A small amount of this can be poured
into the bearing bush, and with a finger placed over the hole, shaken
thoroughly and poured out. To clean the spindle apply the solvent to a
piece of lint-free cloth or kitchen paper. Wipe both spindle and the
ball bearing with same and replace.
4. Fit the hub back into the bearing bush and spin to check that it is
running freely. If its not, return complete assembly to Rega.
5. If all is well, remove hub from bearing bush then tilt the bearing
bush and place two drops of Comma Hypoid EP80, Castrol EPX80w/90 or
Shell Spirax EP90, as recommended, in the position as illustrated. Do
not use more than two drops.
6. With the bush still tilted, slide hub (without twisting) back into
bearing bush. This method should ensure a release passage for trapped
air.
7. Spin hub to evenly distribute oil and refit into turntable. Replace
washer and tighten nut firmly, using an adjustable spanner or Rega tool,
to approximately 5Nm, (a full explanation of this torque can be found
on Explanation of torque)
IMPORTANT
It is essential that the recommended oil is used as any other lubricant
will break down under pressure, causing wear. It is available from most
car accessory shops or from Rega, free of charge.
Degreasing: RS Components stock a solvent cleaner containing 1.1.1.
trichloroethane which is suitable for degreasing the hub/bearing
assembly and lift lower assembly. Please note warning on solvent tin.
* * * *
Changing motor suspension 'O' ring
On older models beware of capacitor discharge at P.C.B. and mains plug
It is important when working on the underside of the turntable that:
a) It is disconnected from the mains.
b) It is fully supported so that no pressure is placed on the tonearm or
hub/bearing. An old Rega turntable lid is ideal for this.
c) The hub is taped to the base.
To remove motor and replace “O” ring
1. Remove motor cover plate.
2. Whilst supporting motor, remove screws either side of motor pulley. Withdraw motor from turntable but do not unsolder wires.
3. Using a small screw driver lever up motor side flaps and, leaving
mounting plate in position, remove old “O” ring and replace with new.
4. Clamp down flaps by inserting small screwdriver into flap holes and gently levering downwards.
5. Install motor following the instruction steps 5-11. Installing New Motor (steps 5-11)
* * * *
To Replace Motor (Planar old style)
WARNING! On some older models beware of capacitor discharge at PCB and
mains plug. It is important when working on the underside of the
turntable that:
a) It is disconnected from the mains.
b) It is fully supported so that no pressure is placed on the tonearm or
hub bearing. An old Rega turntable lid is ideal for this.
c) The hub is taped to the base.
Removing Old Motor
1. Remove motor cover plate.
2. Remove screw in centre of PCB.
3. Unsolder the two switch wires and two mains wires from PCB and turn
plinth over.
4. Support motor in one hand and undo both screws either side of motor pulley.
NOTE: When returning a faulty motor to Rega, please leave PCB attached as this will assist us to make a full check.
Installing New Motor
Keep fingers away from motor bearings as this can cause contamination and loss of oil.
5. Position motor as illustrated in motor mounting diagram on page 5. A
slight kink in the wires will ensure that they are held clear of the
motor thus relieving their tendency to push on motor.
6. Solder switch and mains wires into place on PCB and screw PCB onto
mounting block making sure that the PCB does not touch the plinth, (to
ensure that no stress is caused to PCB or the laminate). Should the PCB
mounting block become detached it can be replaced using hot melt glue or
contact adhesive.
7. Whilst supporting the motor with one hand, turn the plinth over and
fit both mounting screws so that only a small amount of thread is taken
up and the motor mounting plate is still loose.
8. Position pulley slightly to the rear of the hole in the plinth and central in the left right plane as illustrated.
To Replace Motor
9. With one finger, push the pulley down into the hole so that the top
of the pulley is just below the surface of the plinth and is leaning
slightly towards the rear of the turntable as in diagram A.
IMPORTANT! Hold pulley in this position whilst tightening motor mounting screws.
NOTE: On older motors the pulley has been set lower on the spindle and so may not need to be pushed down quite so far.
10. Whilst holding the pulley in this position, tighten both screws. The
motor will then bounce into its correct position when finger pressure
is released as in diagram B.
IMPORTANT - DO NOT OVER TIGHTEN! Motor mounting screws are made of
plastic to avoid over tightening. Therefore the screws will not reach an
"end stop" and so cannot be locked off. Continued tightening after a
firm fit has been achieved will cause too much compression of the 'O'
Ring, causing the laminate to buckle and the screws to strip or the
screw head to break off.
11. The drive belt can now be fitted. This will draw the pulley into its final position as shown in diagram C.
Back to Eric's original email enquiry here^
See the detail on the Rega website here:
http://www.rega.co.uk/service/service_html/Turntable/CleaningHubBearing.htm
http://www.rega.co.uk/service/service_html/Turntable/TurntableServicing.htm
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